GB posting date:Jan 17 2020

Current status:(Finishing packing, shipping starting) Handwriting labels :) and being a 👻

• Runner: Weaston

• Geekhack:Weaston
  
  

• Geekhack Link:GSKT-00 

Original Delivery Date:

For 200 boards and plates it is looking like up to 90ish business days of manufacturing time.  Can't really get this lower, so it will be a bit of a wait, but that's to be expected at that high of a unit count and with all the plates.  If for whatever reason we don't hit the maximum then it will of course take less time.  PCB turnaround should be some time less than the boards and gaskets and screws are a trivial amount of time to acquire so no worries there.  Again cerakoting will add another 3-4 weeks of time (potentially longer depending on how many people want it) so be prepared for that as well.  But that will only affect those who are getting a board koted. 

Projected Delivery Date:Q1/Q2 2022

Good Memes

I've spoken to an attorney about this. He believes that there is certainly a case here. With some very rough numbers, let's say there are 200 participants in this group buy and that the average cost per participant is somewhere around $300. That means that the total amount payed to Weaston (Gray Industries, LLC via Shopify) was somewhere in the neighborhood of $60,000. There are a few options.

The attorney says that the group could bring a lawsuit and that the cost to do this, if all 200 group buy participants also participated in the lawsuit, would probably be somewhere in the neighborhood of $50 per participant. This probably isn't the first course of action to take, but is absolutely an option available to us and not something so astronomical as to be completely out of the realm of possibility.

Separate from a civil lawsuit, the attorney believes that taking $60,000 without delivering any product likely constitutes felony fraud. As such, we are going to begin a discussion with The Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services which, as far as we can tell, seems to be the appropriate department to take the first steps with.

My PMs are open for any questions. I do not yet need any personal information from anyone to continue moving forward. However, it would be helpful to start getting an idea about who's interested, and how much you spent on this GB, separate from this thread, just so these rough numbers can get slightly less rough. If either course above is to be taken, we'll need to offer evidence. It will also likely be possible for the attorneys to get this information from Shopify if a lawsuit is filed.

It is still my sincere hope that Weaston will simply do the right thing, expediently, and ship everyone's orders. I do not believe he has any malicious intent and do not savor the idea of having to take this to court. I think we all just want this to end with everyone as happy as is possible at this point.